Jordan Peterson on the meaning of life for men. MUST WATCH

Jordan Peterson on the meaning of life for men. MUST WATCH


Well I’ll tell you a couple of strange things that the things that I don’t really understand the first is when we’ve done the analysis Of the effects of the future authoring program it has had a different It’s differential impact on men and it’s had a particularly differential impact on what I would call excluded men, and so that would be non-western ethnic minority men or or What? Majority, man who are doing very well so for example at Mohawk College The future authoring program had a particularly robust effect on Mohawk College students who were men who hadn’t done very well in high school And who hadn’t picked a major that had a destination a career destination at its end so you can imagine those people are they have an ambiguous relationship with the idea of education and They’re not oriented specifically towards a goal. They’re not very motivated Now why did it have a differential effect on men? That’s a good question Well first of all the women are doing better so It might just be a matter of the fact that it does better for people who aren’t doing as well and at the moment most Of them are men I don’t believe I think that might be part of it, but I don’t believe that’s all of it I think that part of the reason that women are doing better is cuz they’re agreeable and So if a system sets out a structure and says here’s a pathway to attainment The women won’t rebel against that they’ll go along with it and that’s working very well for them at the moment the men especially the men on the disagreeable end of the distribution And there’s way more men on the district disagreeable end of the distribution, then there are women right That’s what you get from if you look at overlapping normal distributions, so there’s the male district female distribution for agreeableness male distribution for agreeableness tremendous overlap Okay, women are higher all the really agreeable people are women all the really disagreeable people are men And maybe the real differences occur at the extremes right so so and it’s it’s a very interesting side effect of overlapping Distributions, so they people can be mostly the same But that can still produce radical differences Disagreeable men won’t do anything they don’t want to do They just say up yours I’ll go home and play video games With you no. I’m not listening to your stupid and Why should I work for you? I’ll just go have fun I’ll do my own thing I don’t think they’re motivated and so then if you take the men who are like that and you say, okay. What do you want? You can have what you want But you have to figure out what it is So then they write down what they want they think oh hey well that might be worth having so maybe I’ll put some effort into It that’s what it looks like to me now You know that’s weak evidence, and this is a weak argument, but I’m trying to stretch out my understanding to account for this But I’ll tell you something else that’s really weird. I don’t understand this either, so More than 90% of the people who watch my videos on YouTube are men now that’s weird because not about 80% of psychology students are women so that is not what you would expect right you would expect that the Majority of them would be women and you might say well it’s because of the political stance I’ve taken and I thought well that’s possible so I went looked at the demographic data because I have That well before I did any of the political videos 85% of my viewers were men so it’s actually increased a bit, it’s increased by 6% and that’s not trivial But it was still overwhelmingly men, so that was interesting. I thought what the hell why is that exactly and then now I’ve been watching crowds when I’ve been talking to them and The crowds that have come to see me in person this happened at the University of Toronto free speech debate and I actually noticed it and Commented on it before the debate took place because I was talking about intrinsic differences between men and women and I looked around the room And I thought hmm hey 80% of the people in this room are men So I had all the men’s women and women stand up and then all the men stand up I said look like here’s a natural experiment For some reason 80% of the people who showed up to this or men now everybody thought I was kind of cracked to to do that and it was a risk You know what and all right, but I thought no weather something going on here And then what’s interesting now is that every public appearance that I’ve made that’s related to the sort of topics that we’re discussing is Overwhelmingly men it’s like it’s like 85 to 90% And so I thought wow that’s weird like what the hell’s going on here exactly, and then the other thing. I’ve noticed is that? I’ve been talking a lot to the crowds that I’ve been talking to not about rights But about responsibility right because he can’t have the bloody. What are you doing? You can’t have the conversation about rights without the conversation about responsibility because your rights are my Responsibility that’s what they are technically so you just can’t have only half of that discussion And we’re only having half that discussion and the question is well What the hell are you leaving out if you only have that half of the discussion and the answer is what you’re leaving out Responsibility and then the question is well What are you leaving out if you’re leaving out responsibility and the answer might be well, maybe you’re leaving out the meaning of life That’s what it looks like to me. It’s like here you are Suffering away, what makes it worthwhile, right? you know you’re completely out you’re completely you have no idea what you’re You it’s almost impossible to describe how bad an idea that is Responsibility That’s what gives life meaning It’s like lift a load Then you can tolerate yourself right because look at your useless Easily hurt easily killed. Why should you have any self-respect? That’s the story of the fall Pick something up and carry it pick make it heavy enough so that you can think yeah well Useless as I am at least I could move that from there to there well What’s really cool about that is that when I talk to these crowds about this the man’s eyes light up, and that’s very good I’ve seen that phenomena because I’ve been talking about this mythological material for a long time and I can see when I’m watching crowds people You know their eyebrows lift their eyes let light up because I put something together for them. That’s what mythological stories Do so I’m not taking responsibility for that That’s what the stories do so I save the story people go click click click You know in their eyes light up, but this responsibility thing That’s a whole new order of this is that young men are so hungry for that it is unbelievable And one of the things I’ve been talking to some of the people who’ve been Running for the conservative leadership in Canada, and I’ve been talking to them about well the difficulties They have communicating with young people because conservatives What what the hell are they going to sell to young people right because being conservative is something that happens when you’re older they can sell responsibility No, one’s selling it and the thing is for men. There’s nothing about responsibility You know I was watching The Simpsons the other day I watched the first Simpsons episode And I deconstructed it and so it’s really interesting so what happens in the first Simpson episode is that? It’s Christmas and homer and Marge are going to buy some Christmas presents, but Homer doesn’t get his Christmas bonus And so he’s absolutely crushed by that and that Actually is a recurring theme in The Simpsons where Homer loses his job or something like that or can tonight make enough money He’s completely crushed even though he’s kind of useless bumbling Laughing fool of a guy. You know the thing that gives that show its soul is that he’s still oriented towards his family That’s what makes him honorable is that? Foolish as he is he’s decided to adopt Responsibility for his family and to try to bear that and so he’s not he’s a holy fool He’s not a complete fool And it’s so interesting watching the story because he suffers dreadfully as a consequence of not being able to fulfill his responsibilities well That’s for men Women have their sets of responsibilities. They’re not the same Right because they’re complicated because women of course have to take primary Responsibility for for having infants at least but then also for caring for them there they’re structured differently than men For biological necessity even if it’s not a psychological issue and it’s also partly a psychological issue women know what they have to do men have to figure out what they have to do, and if they have nothing worth living for then they stay Peter Pat and Why the hell not? because the alternative to valued responsibility is Impulsive low-class Pleasure and you saw that in the Pinocchio story right that’s Pleasure Island, it’s like well Why lift the load if there’s nothing in it for you? That’s another thing that we’re doing to men. That’s a very bad idea and to boys it’s like You’re pathological and oppressive. It’s like fine. Then why the hell am I going to play That’s that if that’s the situation if I get no credit for bearing responsibility It could bloody well be sure I’m not going to bear it but then you know your life is useless and meaningless and you have you’re not you’re full of self-contempt and nihilism and and That’s not good, and so that’s why I think all right That’s what I think’s going At a deeper level with regards to men needing this direction a man has to decide that he’s going to do something He has to decide that yeah, well. You know partly what you’re trying to do in the future authoring processes say, okay well What’s your highest value? Right it’s the star. It’s like. Okay. What are you aiming for you can decide man, but you know there’s some criteria It should be good for you. It should be good for you in a way that facilitates your moving forward Maybe it should be good for you in a way. That’s also good for the family in the community it should cover the the domain of life I mean there’s constraints on what you should regard as a value, but you but within those constraints you have the Choice you have choice Well the thing is is that people will carry a heavy load if they get to pick the goddamn load So and they think well I won’t carry any load It’s like okay fine But then you’re like the sled dog that doesn’t have a sled to pull you’re just gonna You’re gonna tear pieces out of your own legs because you’re bored. You know you need people are pack animals They need they need to pull against a weight, and and that’s not true for everyone it’s not true particularly say for low conscientious people I mean maybe they’re open and creative or extroverted and some other things but for the for the typical person They’ll eat themselves they’ll eat themselves up unless they have a load this is why there’s such an opiate epidemic among Dispossessed white middle-aged guys who are unemployed in the u.s.. It’s like they lose their job. They’re done Right they despise themselves. They develop chronic pain syndromes and depression and the chronic pain is treated with opiates It’s like that’s what we’re doing so Yeah, that’s what it looks like to me is you you have to and it’s so interesting to watch the young men when you talk To them about responsibility, there’s a god damn thrilled about it. It just blows me away. It’s like really. That’s what’s that’s the counterculture Grow the hell up and do something useful really I could do that oh I’m so excited by that idea no one ever mentioned that before it’s like rights rights rights rights Jesus It’s it’s it’s appalling. It’s a it’s and and I feel that that’s deeply felt by the people who are who are coming out to To listen to these sorts of things – they’re they’ve had enough of that So and they better have because it’s it’s a non-productive mode of being Responsibility man that’s where the meeting in life is so

100 thoughts on “Jordan Peterson on the meaning of life for men. MUST WATCH

  1. I'm a Woman and in most of my dreams when I'm sleeping it features me and a friend saving the world or me rescuing someone from something.
    This is something I crave and have sense I was a young girl.

  2. this strongly reinforces my personal belief that the meaning of life to is to have (find?) a purpose. without purpose your life is meaningless – this is the start of a dark road that leads you to a point where life isn't worth living

  3. "Men are hungry for responsibility"
    Well that would explain the overwhelming number of men in executive positions and parliament in Australia. There is very little stopping a woman from entering politics or becoming an executive in today's world, yet it is still overwhelmingly men. While, that could be due to other factors, such as child birth, as well, it is likely in part due to this.

  4. Can it have something to do with women wants to have feelings and such more than facts? As you don't really talk about feelings like my female teachers have, like it's been so much "imagine how this feels for that person" "You need to feel good about yourself no matter what" etc but you tell people how it is.

  5. I understand why people obsess over him
    he speaks broadly to specific groups of people like young adults with adhd/depression/anxiety and pretends the reason of their suffering is as simple as fucking society's expectations and his audience is so starved for acknowledgement they buy it
    no one is talking about men's role in society except from him, doesnt mean he is right tho

    why would setting aside thousands year old gender roles be "not good"?

    Everyone inmediatly thinks about non-binary random XD kids when you bring up gender roles and jordan petersons's messege benefits from that. old is always worse, new is always better because if it sticks its better and if it doesnt stick its because what's newer is better.
    Years from now, non binary kids wont exist anymore and people will be comfortable with less defined male and female roles and that is 100% better for society. There wont be anymore zhir zher bullshit, but there will be femenine boys and manly girls not being bullied in school anymore

    jordan peterson changes lives the same way the church does, it doesnt have to be the truth as long as you believe it is and if you do then all of your issues are solved
    he gives them a name and sometimes a specific group of perpetrators
    only the most agreeable sheeple listen to jordan peterson

  6. This "agreeableness" argument is ridiculous. Women are "ahead" because of four decades of anti-male discrimination in academia and the workplace. I retired when I did to get away from the women with all of their smutty gossip and lies, their screaming tantrums, their grossly unethical behavior. This will shake out with Western culture being taken over by immigrants who will bring their Sharia law with them.

  7. What is it with people who try to stop this guy from talking, I've seen the videos where his talks are ruined by people chanting loud swears, claiming to condem hate speech and that he's promoting toxic masculinity.

    He's not the most outspoken guy, he listens but makes his positions very clear usually without "destroying" the other person as some YT titles would claim. If Peterson's promoting toxic masculinity, baby, I don't want to be clean.

  8. The meaning of life: the process of overcoming the flesh/ sin through spiritual growth in Christ Jesus. By seeking to hear, know and understand Jesus' words, we go through a process of spiritual change. Asking all your questions spiritually to God; Reading the four gospels over and over until you receive revelation of all understanding becoming filled with such extreme joy!
    Seek and ye shall find, ask and ye shall receive. Authorized King James Version Bible.

  9. In theory, it might sound good to say that women and men are the same, that anyone can do whatever they put their mind to.

    However, in our societies, the wisdom was to listen to elders and fulfill societal expectations. There will always be exceptions, but the majority will fall into these roles.

    Our current situation is causing grave imbalance to that and we see how society is becoming. When everything crashes down, do not be surprised that your ideas of undoing societal norms didn't work.

  10. He nails the nail on the head, everything he said here is in my case true. I've seen many college guys like me having the same struggles…. I can't believe how he casually explains most of the reasons for my self-loathing problems.

  11. I worked very hard to provide for my child but my wife would never engage (even a little bit) in the things that brought me joy. As a result I felt like my sole purpose was to work for her and her whims. I began to resent this. She's with someone else now and seems to enjoy camping and football. Go figure.

  12. I am a woman, and i love your videos because they really help me understand what goes on my head. Sounds like i a have strong male traits though, eg. disagreeability, watching your videos, and let's not forget an inherent fear of commitment

  13. They say that conservatives and libertarians don’t value intelligence. I’m guessing that those people have never listened to this gentleman.

  14. JP: 85% of people who watches my videos on youtube are males

    Me: Im a male

    JP: i say this and males eyes lit up and their eyebrows lift

    Me: i just did those things

    JP got me twice in the same video, im sure this guy could write my biography without knowing me

  15. I think he misuse the word. "Responsibility" it's more like purpose. I don't want responsibility for anything but myself ideally. I'm still looking for my purpose in life. That's worth working to find.

  16. Perhaps the reason more men listen to Jordan is because a) men feel disenfranchised by todays society as men are often portrayed negatively, and, b) Jordan speaks positively conveying understanding and therefore is a positive influence which, also, can be lacking on-the-whole in society today. Jordan is level-headed and besides having a laugh men like level headidness. Without going off into deeper caveman-type explanations of mans role in society.
    (Ed.) And Jordan is dead right about the opiate epidemic too. No point going into it here though except to say that drugs have largely replaced jobs.

  17. Im pretty sure the reason why we men watch Peterson is because he's like the father/uncle we never had. He gives great advice and insight into what it means to be a man and how to navigate the world as a man

  18. more men watch Jordan not because they want more responsibility but because they seek male role model to deconstruct and partialy adopt. Someone with good rethoric is more expressive and thus easier to deconstruct to usable pieces. Someone that at the same time actualy tries to make it easier (by talking about stuff that makes him click) is even better. I sure that Jordan knows that but as machination is wrong on purpose.

  19. So what's the meaning of life for women then? I'm serious. The only people telling women what to do with their lives is feminists and sjws which is why so many women are acting the way they do. If people like Jordan Peterson don't have anything to say about it then every woman is going to become a raging man hating feminist soon.

  20. Its because women only respect other women they have this whole situation made up in their head where they need to only support other women to make up for the lack of achievement in history

  21. Put that together when I was a child. I perfectly well understood why we have the systems that we have in place the way we do. Religioun, Politics, Entertainment. It's to distract us or, as you say, to grant purpose. Nobody, absolutely nobody, really wants to be stuck alone with nothing but their thoughts asking endless questions that can't be answered. It's why solitary confinement became considered inhumane. It drives people insane. We need things to distract us. To entertain us. To give us purpose. Without purpose many things can happen to the mind of an individual. Depression, desperation, addiction and even psychological breakdowns that could have permanent damage on the individual's thought process and selfworth.

    What's funny to me is:

    We have run this experiment with mice. Where we put them in a situation where everything they needed or wanted was taken care of. They didn't have any responsibility beyond just living. Do you know what happened? Anarchy. Depression. Birth rate decline. They had plenty of room for more litters. They had plenty of food and water. They had ample room and yet their "society" crumbled.

    A lot of people don't like to compare that to us because we are humans and an "advanced species" but in reality we all, deep down, know we need a goal. We know we need purpose. We know we need entertainment. Distractions. Because in the end, without fail, the same thing can and will happen to us. Eventually we will get to that point where technology will take care of us. Work for us. Build for us. Provide for us. The problem will be what comes after that point. We can't avoid that future either. I'm just glad I wasn't born in that generation.

  22. He's a great orator. He spoke about the guy who only does what he wants to do, and closes his mind to everything else.
    That is exactly what he's doing when he oversimplifies certain aspects of life. He refuses to consider (based on this video, anyway) other people's genetic, physical, mental and/or financial limitations, and focuses solely on one type of person, who may only be that type of person temporarily.
    All of that is fine… The man can and should speak on his beliefs. What concerns me is how many people see his opinion as gospel, and thrn themselves become close-minded to the huge, varying array of social, familial and financial (just to name a few) situations that contribute to a person's motivation, outlook and countenance.
    He's certainly very smart, but he's not without bias or exaggeration. Look at how many times he says "everyone", "every time", "every man", etc…
    Just something to stay alert to.

  23. I know this won't go over well with most people in general but our number one responsibility is toward our creator, and if we never acknowledge that we will never be satisfied, because he created us for that relationship

  24. GOD I am a 50 yo Peter Pan, just waiting for a pension that may never come, and old age that will. How did this happen? young guys, find a goal even if it is religion, politics, science, whatever.

  25. I tend to believe that the reason why women are doing better is that they are raised in a way that they are expected to do everything by themselves and also take care of man, and men are raised in a way that there will be always someone taking care of them either mother wife daughter secretary …

  26. Jordan, what dumb shit. The reason women are doing better is because males are being made out (especially white males) to be evil, and women are made out to be good. I couldn't even watch your video past 1:20. Are you really having trouble with this?

  27. we just want to give to something that will give back. We want this to be meaningful, in some way. It can be funny, foolish, deep, depressing, it can be anything really.

  28. I think men struggling with drugs, laziness, a lack of purpose, etc. should at least go out once and hunt. It's one of the quickest ways to fulfill your basic, primal, evolutionary instincts and purpose. To find, kill and eat an animal. To place food on the table for your family in the most primal way. A successful hunt reaffirms your ability to be dangerous and provide sustenance for yourself and others around you. An unsuccessful hunt makes you hungry and more focused to do be better so that you may do better. The wolf climbing the mountain is always more hungry than the wolf already at the top.

  29. if i became unemployed i'd become 'enlightened' again(and yes again, aka, was once) and do my best to help others in this respect… but i have zero idea oh how to survive in that scenario, i've already tried in various forms..

    literally have zero idea, at this point, in finding any 'purpose' or 'meaning' otherwise because its not simple baseless egoic none-sense that will deteriorate in these 'relatively' short lives.

    know i am well capable of doing nearly whatever i want, but at this point in life, or age, i have a hard time seeing how 'starting over' is possible, yet i finally understand myself and the world enough to know what makes sense for me.. taken to many decades though and now no support aside from 100k's worth of debt to make happen… yes… what a lovely and so absolutely unfortunately 'unique' scenario..

  30. Jordan Peterson's words need to be translated into every tongue and shared with the world. We are fortunate to have his delivery in our language and with such emotion!

  31. Only a white person’s eyes light up at the thought of having responsibility. Lol

    I’ve had responsibilities since I was 7.

    Yeah he’s right. Y’all do need to grow the hell up.

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